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Bertrand's Problem


Bertrand's problem asks for the probability that a chord drawn at random on a circle of radius r (i.e., circle line picking) has length >=r (or sometimes greater than or equal to the side length sqrt(3)r of an inscribed equilateral triangle; Solomon 1978, p. 2). The answer depends on the interpretation of "two points drawn at random," or more specifically on the "natural" measure for the problem.

ChordLength

In the most commonly considered measure, the two chord endpoints are chosen independently and uniformly on the circumference of the circle. Equivalently, one endpoint can be fixed at (1, 0) on the unit circle and the other chosen uniformly on its circumference. The smaller angle theta between their radii is then uniformly distributed on [0,pi]. The chord length (circle line picking) is

 s(theta)=2|sin(1/2theta)|,
(1)

solving for s(theta)=1 gives pi/3, so the fraction of the upper unit semicircle having chord length greater than 1 is

 P=(pi-pi/3)/pi=2/3.
(2)

For the alternative threshold sqrt(3)r, the angular separation must be at least 2pi/3, giving probability 1/3 instead.

However, if a point is instead chosen uniformly on a radius of the circle and a chord drawn perpendicular to the radius through that point, then its length is at least r when the point's distance from the center is at most sqrt(3)r/2. Thus,

 P=((sqrt(3))/2r)/r=(sqrt(3))/2.
(3)

For the alternative threshold sqrt(3)r, the point must instead be within distance r/2 of the center, giving probability 1/2.

The latter interpretation is more satisfactory in the sense that the result remains the same for a rotated circle, a slightly smaller circle inscribed in the first, or for a circle of the same size but with its center slightly offset. Jaynes (1983) shows that the interpretation of "random" as a continuous uniform distribution over the radius is the only one possessing all these three invariances.


See also

Chord, Circle Line Picking, Geometric Probability

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References

Bogomolny, A. "Bertrand's Paradox." https://www.cut-the-knot.org/bertrand.shtml.Erickson, G. W. and Fossa, J. A. Dictionary of Paradox. Lanham, MD: University Press of America, pp. 21-23, 1998.Isaac, R. The Pleasures of Probability. New York: Springer-Verlag, 1995.Jaynes, E. T. Papers on Probability, Statistics, and Statistical Physics. Dordrecht, Netherlands: Reidel, 1983.Numberphile. "Bertrand's Paradox (with 3blue1brown)." Featuring G. Sanderson. Dec. 20, 2021. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZBwsm6B280.Papoulis, A. Probability, Random Variables, and Stochastic Processes, 2nd ed. New York: McGraw-Hill, pp. 11-12, 1984.Pickover, C. A. Keys to Infinity. New York: Wiley, pp. 42-45, 1995.Solomon, H. Geometric Probability. Philadelphia, PA: SIAM, p. 2, 1978.

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Weisstein, Eric W. "Bertrand's Problem." From MathWorld--A Wolfram Resource. https://mathworld.wolfram.com/BertrandsProblem.html

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